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The Mantis - Secondary

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:15 am
by Vutall
Are the Mantis able to gain permission to construct an Embassy in Crane lands, either in Lonely Shore City and the Port That Never Sleeps?

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Re: The Mantis - Secondary

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:03 am
by Yogo Otoko
*Crane put up sign that says "No Pirates Allowed"*

Re: The Mantis - Secondary

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:41 am
by Kaiu Aiichiro
Land territory allows for Crane control over them. But the Crane don't have a lot of land to spare.
Null on this.

Re: The Mantis - Secondary

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:56 am
by Kakita Kazuko
Kaiu Aiichiro wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:41 am
Land territory allows for Crane control over them. But the Crane don't have a lot of land to spare.
Null on this.
Is there a map of the land somewhere?

Re: The Mantis - Secondary

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:11 am
by Kaiu Aiichiro
Kakita Kazuko wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:56 am
Kaiu Aiichiro wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:41 am
Land territory allows for Crane control over them. But the Crane don't have a lot of land to spare.
Null on this.
Is there a map of the land somewhere?
There is, on the Out of Character area iirc.
The Crane have a lot of land, but few of it is usable rn.

Re: The Mantis - Secondary

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:16 am
by Kakita Kazuko
Kaiu Aiichiro wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:11 am
Kakita Kazuko wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:56 am
Kaiu Aiichiro wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:41 am
Land territory allows for Crane control over them. But the Crane don't have a lot of land to spare.
Null on this.
Is there a map of the land somewhere?
There is, on the Out of Character area iirc.
The Crane have a lot of land, but few of it is usable rn.
couldn't find lonely shore city on the map

Re: The Mantis - Secondary

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:18 am
by Kaiu Aiichiro
Kakita Kazuko wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:16 am
Kaiu Aiichiro wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:11 am
Kakita Kazuko wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:56 am


Is there a map of the land somewhere?
There is, on the Out of Character area iirc.
The Crane have a lot of land, but few of it is usable rn.
couldn't find lonely shore city on the map
On the shore between Omoeuru, Kougen and Sabiishi

Re: The Mantis - Secondary

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:23 am
by Kakita Kazuko
Kaiu Aiichiro wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:18 am
Kakita Kazuko wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:16 am
Kaiu Aiichiro wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:11 am


There is, on the Out of Character area iirc.
The Crane have a lot of land, but few of it is usable rn.
couldn't find lonely shore city on the map
On the shore between Omoeuru, Kougen and Sabiishi
none of these places r on the map?

Re: The Mantis - Secondary

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:24 am
by Kaiu Aiichiro
Kakita Kazuko wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:23 am
Kaiu Aiichiro wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:18 am
Kakita Kazuko wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:16 am


couldn't find lonely shore city on the map
On the shore between Omoeuru, Kougen and Sabiishi
none of these places r on the map?
Those are the name of provinces

Re: The Mantis - Secondary

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:53 am
by Kakita Kazuko
Kaiu Aiichiro wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:24 am
Kakita Kazuko wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:23 am
Kaiu Aiichiro wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:18 am

On the shore between Omoeuru, Kougen and Sabiishi
none of these places r on the map?
Those are the name of provinces
im looking at the map from ooc?

https://i.imgur.com/3QkjsvH.jpg

Re: The Mantis - Secondary

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:56 am
by Utaku Ichiro
On that map it would south of Water Music City along the coast. Pretty much the center of the curve of that spit of land.

About Y68, between X39 and 40

Re: The Mantis - Secondary

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:14 pm
by Kakita Kazuko
Utaku Ichiro wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:56 am
On that map it would south of Water Music City along the coast. Pretty much the center of the curve of that spit of land.

About Y68, between X39 and 40
ty

hmm what do the mantis have to offer tho? honestly id probably be fine with letting them set up an embassy in lonely shore city if they can offer us something good

Re: The Mantis - Secondary

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:17 pm
by Kaiu Aiichiro
Kakita Kazuko wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:14 pm
Utaku Ichiro wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:56 am
On that map it would south of Water Music City along the coast. Pretty much the center of the curve of that spit of land.

About Y68, between X39 and 40
ty

hmm what do the mantis have to offer tho? honestly id probably be fine with letting them set up an embassy in lonely shore city if they can offer us something good
Naval warfare
Yeah this sounds interesting now.

Re: The Mantis - Secondary

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:11 pm
by Kaito Kai
Mantis often get their wealth, literally, from Crane coastal ships.

If I was the Crane, why would I let them move in and become vaguely respectable?

Re: The Mantis - Secondary

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:34 am
by Kakita Kazuko
Kaito Kai wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:11 pm
Mantis often get their wealth, literally, from Crane coastal ships.

If I was the Crane, why would I let them move in and become vaguely respectable?
o damn, really? good point tho

Re: The Mantis - Secondary

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:02 am
by Kaito Kai
Yup. When the Mantis go pirating, they usually go after Crane ships.

Of the major clans with significant coastlines, Crane are the only ones that really do any seagoing trade. Crab ships are usually armored warships so trying to pirate those is a good way to just, you know, die. Phoenix do some seagoing trade but not to the same volume the Crane do (and even then, what are you going to pirate off a Phoenix ship? Scrolls? Religious artifacts?).

Re: The Mantis - Secondary

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:05 am
by Yasuki Ginkarasu
Perils of being the Empire's middemen. Almost all trade passes through Crane hands or lands at some point.

Re: The Mantis - Secondary

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:56 am
by Vutall
The Mantis are able to set up an Embassy in Crane Lands, helping repair relations with them and gaining a foothold on the Mainland.